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		<title>Comment on The Seventh Circuit, The Administrative Exemption, and Account Managers by Ryan Nalley</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=542#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Nalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read the actual case, but as it is described here, I would think that the decision came from the Chicago IDOL wage and hour division.  It would be a step up for them.  But this coming from not only the District Court, and approved by the 7th Circuit is unsettling!   But they are correct about the vagueness of the rules.

I actually submitted a complaint to the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules complaining about that the rules so vague that they allowed the IDOL to event policy at their own whim.  I was not an attorney at the time, or a law student, but the complaint detailed a case by the IDOL which was simply absurd.  Surprisingly, I did hear back, and there was agreement that at least some of the rules violated the Code of Administrative Rules.  In the end the IDOL had to give an employee 15 days to intervene or object to regarding the findings of the case, and that the employee had to be notified of the actual results.  Prior to then the employer had a 15day time limit, but the employee had to &quot;timely&quot; submit his notice, without any number of days (in the case in question I submitted the request before they had mailed the notice, then sent a second a week later--the first was deemed untimely, the second request was barred by RES JUDICATA based on the first being denied.

Anyway, the change only made it harder for IDOL to get rid of any case at any time, but not much harder.

The point is, if they took me serious enough to make a change, perhaps the U.S. DOL would take a number of actual lawyers petitions concerning the inadequacy of certain rules, perhaps the rules could be straitened out to avoid such outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read the actual case, but as it is described here, I would think that the decision came from the Chicago IDOL wage and hour division.  It would be a step up for them.  But this coming from not only the District Court, and approved by the 7th Circuit is unsettling!   But they are correct about the vagueness of the rules.</p>
<p>I actually submitted a complaint to the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules complaining about that the rules so vague that they allowed the IDOL to event policy at their own whim.  I was not an attorney at the time, or a law student, but the complaint detailed a case by the IDOL which was simply absurd.  Surprisingly, I did hear back, and there was agreement that at least some of the rules violated the Code of Administrative Rules.  In the end the IDOL had to give an employee 15 days to intervene or object to regarding the findings of the case, and that the employee had to be notified of the actual results.  Prior to then the employer had a 15day time limit, but the employee had to &#8220;timely&#8221; submit his notice, without any number of days (in the case in question I submitted the request before they had mailed the notice, then sent a second a week later&#8211;the first was deemed untimely, the second request was barred by RES JUDICATA based on the first being denied.</p>
<p>Anyway, the change only made it harder for IDOL to get rid of any case at any time, but not much harder.</p>
<p>The point is, if they took me serious enough to make a change, perhaps the U.S. DOL would take a number of actual lawyers petitions concerning the inadequacy of certain rules, perhaps the rules could be straitened out to avoid such outcomes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Physician Assistants And The Professional Exemption by A Nurse Practitioner</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=215#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>A Nurse Practitioner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So --- are the PAs exempt or not?
 and what about Nurse Practitioners, especially in the State of Calif where a ;collaborating MD is required in order for the NP to practice?
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8212; are the PAs exempt or not?<br />
 and what about Nurse Practitioners, especially in the State of Calif where a ;collaborating MD is required in order for the NP to practice?<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on The FLSA In The News by Unpaid Overtime Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=657#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Unpaid Overtime Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent case out of the Third District Court of Appeal - which handles appeals from Miami-Dade County (and Monroe County) trial courts recently issued an opinion which bootstraps a stringent requirement of making specific oral complaints in order to come with the protected class of employees entitled to protection for oral complaints under the Kasten v. Saint-Gobain case. http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/Opinions/3D09-3332.reh.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent case out of the Third District Court of Appeal &#8211; which handles appeals from Miami-Dade County (and Monroe County) trial courts recently issued an opinion which bootstraps a stringent requirement of making specific oral complaints in order to come with the protected class of employees entitled to protection for oral complaints under the Kasten v. Saint-Gobain case. <a href="http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/Opinions/3D09-3332.reh.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/Opinions/3D09-3332.reh.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Eleventh Circuit Blows A Big Hole In Lynn&#8217;s Food by Unpaid Overtime Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=638#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Unpaid Overtime Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In claims for unpaid overtime or minimum wages, maybe there is some ability to prevent an employer&#039;s ability to engage in this tactical maneuver (to moot a case by paying the liquidated damages - back pay and penalties) by including some equitable claims in addition to money damages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In claims for unpaid overtime or minimum wages, maybe there is some ability to prevent an employer&#8217;s ability to engage in this tactical maneuver (to moot a case by paying the liquidated damages &#8211; back pay and penalties) by including some equitable claims in addition to money damages.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Section 7(k) Decision Out Of Buffalo by Section 7(k) Decision Out Of Buffalo &#124; Labor Relations Information System</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=641#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Section 7(k) Decision Out Of Buffalo &#124; Labor Relations Information System</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This article comes from our sister blog FLSA Cases: [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Parroting Statute Sufficient For Complaint by Miles Jackson</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=632#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have anyone come across any nonprofit cases of late?  There seems to be a paucity of legal precedent of nonprofits&#039; treatment under the FLSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have anyone come across any nonprofit cases of late?  There seems to be a paucity of legal precedent of nonprofits&#8217; treatment under the FLSA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going On Vacation by Mark Crabtree</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=573#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers.  Sounds like a great trip.  (BTW, hard to believe the twins are NINE.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers.  Sounds like a great trip.  (BTW, hard to believe the twins are NINE.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reverse Bench-Slapped by OlderThanDirt</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=431#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>OlderThanDirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the focus here placed on the &quot;inside baseball&quot; of who is clashing with whom and rebuking whom you&#039;ve overlooked a remarkable split in *propositions of law* occurring within a single week in March. As you reported Mar 23, in: &quot;Fourth Circuit: Retail Employee Who Performs Non-Exempt Work 99% Of Time Can Still Be Exempt [Grace v. Family Dollar, CA4], CA4 has now ringingly endorsed a view of the Executive exemption under FLSA that embraces CONCURRENT managerial and individual contributor duties. This is also a view toward which DoL has gradually evolved over the past three-to-four decades, from its original definition and delineation that established a bright-line time-allocation test...EXCEPT, as  Judge Scheindlin correctly points out, for this odd &quot;carve-out&quot; —exclusively available to the police. We now have a situation in which, at least according to a combination of DoL &amp; CA4 jurisprudence, the principal duty of &quot;management&quot; operates concurrently 100% of the time even while the employee is performing the most menial of tasks, EXCEPT for police executives whose performance of menial duties operates absolutely to exclude the sergeants&#039; simultaneous performance of any managerial duties. As a threshold  inquiry into the &quot;primary duty&quot; of police sergeants, paraphrasing CA4 in Grace, if the sergeants are not employed *primarily* for administrative and managerial control over front-line patrol officers, then who is employed for that task (and it beggars belief that no one is so employed)?

Judge Scheindlin is absolutely correct about the existence of a &quot;carve-out&quot; exclusive to lower-level police executives, and the present legal situation is absurd. CA4 has obviously gone much too far applying its doctrine of concurrency, by holding that it is even conceivable that one could adequately administer and manage a recognized subdivision of an enterprise while 99% of one&#039;s time and attention is consumed performing menial tasks. DoL has obviously gone too far in failing to notice that police sergeants, whose facial primary responsibility is the adminisration and management of front-line patrol officers, are executives by any rational sense of that word.

Unfortunately Mullins, as a case, has been contaminated by remarkably toxic actions on the part of NYC police top brass, a circumstance which is applying a distorting gravitational field upon the whole messy controversy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the focus here placed on the &#8220;inside baseball&#8221; of who is clashing with whom and rebuking whom you&#8217;ve overlooked a remarkable split in *propositions of law* occurring within a single week in March. As you reported Mar 23, in: &#8220;Fourth Circuit: Retail Employee Who Performs Non-Exempt Work 99% Of Time Can Still Be Exempt [Grace v. Family Dollar, CA4], CA4 has now ringingly endorsed a view of the Executive exemption under FLSA that embraces CONCURRENT managerial and individual contributor duties. This is also a view toward which DoL has gradually evolved over the past three-to-four decades, from its original definition and delineation that established a bright-line time-allocation test&#8230;EXCEPT, as  Judge Scheindlin correctly points out, for this odd &#8220;carve-out&#8221; —exclusively available to the police. We now have a situation in which, at least according to a combination of DoL &amp; CA4 jurisprudence, the principal duty of &#8220;management&#8221; operates concurrently 100% of the time even while the employee is performing the most menial of tasks, EXCEPT for police executives whose performance of menial duties operates absolutely to exclude the sergeants&#8217; simultaneous performance of any managerial duties. As a threshold  inquiry into the &#8220;primary duty&#8221; of police sergeants, paraphrasing CA4 in Grace, if the sergeants are not employed *primarily* for administrative and managerial control over front-line patrol officers, then who is employed for that task (and it beggars belief that no one is so employed)?</p>
<p>Judge Scheindlin is absolutely correct about the existence of a &#8220;carve-out&#8221; exclusive to lower-level police executives, and the present legal situation is absurd. CA4 has obviously gone much too far applying its doctrine of concurrency, by holding that it is even conceivable that one could adequately administer and manage a recognized subdivision of an enterprise while 99% of one&#8217;s time and attention is consumed performing menial tasks. DoL has obviously gone too far in failing to notice that police sergeants, whose facial primary responsibility is the adminisration and management of front-line patrol officers, are executives by any rational sense of that word.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Mullins, as a case, has been contaminated by remarkably toxic actions on the part of NYC police top brass, a circumstance which is applying a distorting gravitational field upon the whole messy controversy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Obligation To Individually Calculate Damages by Will Aitchison</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=226#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Aitchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some plaintiffs&#039; lawyers have taken to sending letters to the defendant describing what plaintiffs think the defendant&#039;s Rule 26 disclosure should look like. Those letters, sometimes sent even pre-litigation, include a request for all electronic payroll information and the necessary code descriptions to interpret the data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some plaintiffs&#8217; lawyers have taken to sending letters to the defendant describing what plaintiffs think the defendant&#8217;s Rule 26 disclosure should look like. Those letters, sometimes sent even pre-litigation, include a request for all electronic payroll information and the necessary code descriptions to interpret the data.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Obligation To Individually Calculate Damages by Tim Selander</title>
		<link>http://flsacases.com/?p=226#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Selander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will: I agree with you, Plaintiffs attorneys should calculate damages on an individual basis, and should use those calculations in settlements.  I don&#039;t think that the settlement needs to follow them exactly, but it should be based on them.

What these courts probably don&#039;t understand is that defendants often, if not always, refuse to produce actual payroll data or other information that would allow the Plaintiff attorneys to perform the required calculation.  If it is produced, it is often produced in paper or in a pdf format that takes many many hours to input into a spreadsheet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will: I agree with you, Plaintiffs attorneys should calculate damages on an individual basis, and should use those calculations in settlements.  I don&#8217;t think that the settlement needs to follow them exactly, but it should be based on them.</p>
<p>What these courts probably don&#8217;t understand is that defendants often, if not always, refuse to produce actual payroll data or other information that would allow the Plaintiff attorneys to perform the required calculation.  If it is produced, it is often produced in paper or in a pdf format that takes many many hours to input into a spreadsheet.</p>
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